We need a second reformation. Involving the Prots and Romans.

Some quotes from today. The issue that Spengler addresses is not limited to our Roman brothers and sisters. The same idea of what the good is has infested the heirarchy of the State Church: be they Lutheran, Anglican or Presbyterian. They have decided they need to virtue signal so they are seen as good, and proper, and acceptable to society.

Germany’s leaders have nothing of significance to say about the worst outbreak of sexual assaults in Germany since the Red Army moved out after World War II. Why won’t they do anything? Answer: for the same reason that the Catholic Church insists that Islam is a religion of peace. The alternative–watching from a distance a civilizational collapse in real time with its attendant horrors–is too terrible for Angela Merkel or Pope Francis I to contemplate. They would rather take casualties than absorb the horror of the situation. The root of the problem is theological. The West is paralyzed by its own notion of the good.

But the church is to stand as a witness in its generation. Of the errors of that generation. If we preach a lie, we will leave the truth, and die, and wither. So we need to discuss what is happening, because it is ugly.

And not try to project the blame elsewhere. The elite sell their approval: including the modern indulgences such as carbon credits or checking for ethical virtue such as free range, organic certification, or fair trade.

I fear that when the reprisals come, they will also target the church. I wish I could say it was unjustified. In their rush to virtue-signal by coddling migrants, many of our fellow Christians have unwittingly conspired to attack their host societies. Let us pray that such a crisis is averted and that the Body of Christ learns to love its neighbors.

Spengler, who is not of the faith, considers the spectrum of protestantism, and suggests that only the Calvinists have the ability to handle this. He is wrong: for what he sees as Calvinism is standard theology, as preached by the Church fathers. Roman and Orthodox theologians have considered and preach that some are damned. But where he is correct is that he notes universalism is an error.

A final thought: At one end of the Christian spectrum, the doctrine of universal salvation requires us to believe that everyone is potentially good, or at least receptive to the good. Merkel is inclined towards this view, as are most German Christians (who believe that for them to be forgiven, everyone has to be forgiven). I suspect that Pope Francis thinks this way, too. George W. Bush, a mainline Methodist, also is a universal salvationist, judging from his Second Inaugural Address. At the other end of the Christian spectrum we have the Calvinist assertion that grace is given only to an Elect. America’s Civil War was the great Calvinist crusade against evil, when Union soldiers sang a paraphrase of Isaiah 63. If we insist on believing that there is an inherent good in everyone, the likes of the Nazis, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and ISIS will provide massive evidence to the contrary, and we will be paralyzed with horror–like Germany’s leaders today.

The reaction of the populace to this virtue signalling by the church is… derisive.

Similar with the reaction to the current Pope and migrants. If he wants them so bad, open up the Vatican.

Yes I can confirm. The Italian view regarding the Bergoglio is frocio con il culo degli altri. This roughly translates to: gay as long as it’s someone else’s ass.

What the church needs to do is rediscover how to confront evil. I suggest all those liberal leaders go read C.S. Lewis. I suggest they consider the encyclicals and actions of Pius, who damned the Nazis and rescued Jews. And I think they need to remember that Farel died, as a citizen of Geneva, in the army, defending his state.

There is enough evil in this world. We cannot ignore it in some post modern cone of silence. We need to stop looking at the microaggressions and start rediscovering that our battle is against the powers and principalities of this age. We need a reformation.

Or we will wither.

11 thoughts on “We need a second reformation. Involving the Prots and Romans.

  1. Ecclesia reformata semper reformanda.

    The problem, brother Will, is that anyone who understands that without translation would never be hired by a search committee as a pastor, as that is too crunchy, too intellectual and too judgmental. Because the idea of reform feels bad.

    And for that reason, reform is needed now.

  2. I’m not sure we will get a second reformation because, sadly, the church is not a significant feature in general life today and the leadership is of a style that Latimer preached against in the 1500’s. Its a double whammy.

    What we may get is a revival as those seem to pop up where and when you least expect it although I do wonder if God has given the west over to man to indulge himself in nonsense.

  3. Semper reformanda indeed.

    Problem is that lots of Prots aren’t ones of conviction but of convenience. There aren’t nearly enough who can articulate the solae, who can argue why the Romanists are wrong theologically, or even why the first one happened.

    The problem here, on content, is not with the crunchy Romans or Reformed. The intellectuals in both groups (and both attract intellectuals) know the solae, know the arguments before and against them, and have searched the scripture. But the crunchy are not running modern churches. Instead the feel good, virtue signalling are.

    They tend to corruption. Semper Ecclesiae Refomrans, and in this time more than most

  4. Ah well, your Arminian sister believes that we all have free will to choose God – “Thy will be done” or self, “My will be done”. Unfortunately too many choose the latter, including within the Church. Not universal salvation, for certain.

    Say after me, our theology of salvation is but a model. We do not know the depths of mercy God had.

    God bless you, Sister

  5. For as much as the Great Schism and the Reformation had a theological underlayer to them, the problem is always this: when the Church refuses to remove the perverse & corrupt from its midst, it falls into apostasy. For all intents & purposes, the Reformation kicked off because Luther quite accurately pointed out our the evil of corrupting the faith to build monuments.

    The problem, for anyone that knows their history, is this process only happens in one way. Kindest way to say it is “go full King Hezekiah”. I don’t look forward to the process. But the Lord will set fire to the branches He cuts off. Be that I am not one of them is my daily prayer and drive.

    This: co-sign

    • Of course, maybe we could just find a 5 foot tall man to go about punching heretics. I’ve heard that has worked previous.

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