This is Detis list of arguments that female traditional conservatives make. There are a series of errors — and hence it is available for a good fisking

1. The manosphere is full of bitter and angry men.

No. Females hate male violence. Not just from the manosphere, but from any man. When there is injustice, men get angry. Women, instead, harness male anger and male violence through the power of the courts.

2. Because of their bitterness and anger, these men are dangerous and violent, and therefore must be controlled (and punished if necessary).

Women are as violent as men. It is better to talk about dangerous people (who exist) not say that all of any class are dangerous.

3. These men are immoral and stand athwart conventional Judeo-Christian morality because they associate and identify ideologically with the Game/pickup artist sect of the manosphere.

Well, yeah, right. There have always been seducers. Casanova was not living in the feminist age. There have always been women who will be seduced. The skills of seduction have not changed. What has changed is that they are on the internet, and available to more men.

4. Game is immoral, even in the marriage context, because it is grounded in fraud, deceit and manipulation of women.

Half agree. Game implies that you are acting like or as a leader. However, if you act that way, you become that way. And… in the meantime, the introverts will quietly meet and be happy ever after.

5. Assuming it is true that Game allows men to exploit women’s psychological, sexual and sociobiological composition to ultimately manipulate them into sex (whether married or not), it proves that men are less moral than women, and that women occupy a higher moral plane than men. Women are pure. Men are base.

We are all equally evil. We are all responsible for our sins.  Did you expect a Calvinist to say otherwise?

6. Men are much more to blame for the current SMP mess than women. Even though women were freed from prior legal, social and medical/risk of pregnancy constraints to have sex with whomever they wanted, men are more to blame because they took advantage of it. Men should have restrained themselves from the sexual smorgasbord the women put on offer.

No, women are moral beings, and their sexual  behaviour is a moral issue. Weak and circular argument.

7. Men who aren’t having sex should not be complaining about it. Christian single men are supposed to be chaste. Period, Full stop. Never mind that they see women — including the women in Church — doing literally whatever they want with whomever they want.

This is an argument for modesty. Modesty is a form of charity, because men are visual. And modesty intensifies the sexuality of marriage, because “that is only for my husband” makes women feel special, cherished, and worthy.

8. Christian single women are supposed to be chaste too, but if they are not, it is ultimately some man’s fault. Shaming sluts is diametrically opposed to Christian tenets of love, forgiveness and redemption, so we won’t do it. All she has to do is repent, come to Church and say she’s sorry for letting some man (men) ravage her body, and God will do the rest. We’ll leave aside for later the sticky wicket of natural consequences. Someone else will have to deal with that. We deal in the spiritual, and that’s all we need to do.

Restatement of previous argument, and still an error.

9. The divorce culture, the current legal setup in which women are encouraged to divorce for the flimsiest of reasons, men are impoverished and income streams to divorced women are arranged, the destruction of families: these things are bad. But men going around having premarital sex and deflowering precious paragons of virtue is worse, even if the paragons were begging for it. And any man who does this deserves to have a woman divorce and impoverish him, because that’s just and fair, and our God is a God of justice.

Two wrongs do not make a right.  Chastity allows for discernment of character. Once you have sex, you are emotionally bound to the partner (unless you have seared your conscience) and your ability to be discerning goes.

10. This so-called MGTOW business is merely men becoming parasites upon society. MGTOWs do nothing and ultimately give nothing back to the society in which they live and feed upon. They need to leave the MGTOW lifestyle, man up, quit playing video games and working at the comic book store, and marry the “reformed sluts” on which we are slapping those coats of Kilz. That way, these men can contribute to society in a way we believe is most appropriate. But if things go bad, or she decides she’s not haaaappy, or decides to EatPrayLove, he’s on his own. It’s his job to be nice to her, be sensitive to her needs, and submit himself to Jesus, the Ultimate Boyfriend and Lover of His/Her Soul. And if she leaves, it’s not our fault. We did our part. We had her pray the prayer. Hey, he f**ked up, he trusted us.

Going your own way is a reaction to the society we are in. It is a secular form of the monaster, and men are moving there, as in Ancient Rome they fled to the monks in the desert while Rome crumbled..

11. (Courtesy of FlirtyIntroverts) If men have it so bad and they feel they cannot get married because of unfair divorce laws, then they need to band together and change the divorce laws to make them fairer. The fact that the vast majority of men are not agitating for wholesale divorce reform means (1) they don’t think they are being treated unfairly; (2) the men who do get screwed got what’s coming to them; and/or (3) men still have all the political and economic power in this country and if they really wanted reform it would happen tomorrow.

The men who have been through a divorce are living in the shadow of coercion. They are one missed support payment away from prison. All men are one complaint away from losing their job. You cannot agitate politically from a position of no power.