Well I got the link at Grerp’s place. It nicely summarises the position most women want men. Somewhere subhuman.  There have been some really good comments in the last 48 hours, and in the spirit of recycling, I’m reprinting them. They are all antifeminist, and (to my knowledge) they are all made by women.

Grerp @ Dalrock’s place.

Feminism is fueled by money, prosperity. Without prosperity, there is not transfer of money from the greater to the lesser. Do you see a lot of prosperity going down? Around me, it’s in relative scarcity. Thus, feminism is a dead woman walking; it doesn’t matter whether it is given more ammo or not, EXCEPT on the micro level where men suffer as feminists triumph and chortle. As a whole, feminism’s done. Even without the all important money foundation, as this post point’s out, the younger generations of men have sussed out the con game here and aren’t playing anymore, at least not by the current rules.Fortunately for you, men – esp. young men – are generally predisposed to like women. Find one of those. Treat him really really well. Keep treating him well, and you can’t probably ride this out. If this doesn’t seem like enough of a hedge, be really nice to all the men in your life. Even without the angle of self-preservation, it’s a good way to live.So much of feminism is just pride. PRIDE. And pride, as we all know, goeth before a fall.

Just visiting added an apt description of the desert the Christofeminists have made of the church.

The only way I can see a reverse in the harm that’s been done to society is if the religious institutes step up. I don’t see that happening. I don’t know what it’s like in the states, but I fell away from church where I live because the church fell away from the faith. I grew up religious because of my grandparents, but I have a very good understanding of new age and druidic ideas because that’s what my mother follows. I became very uncomfortable seeing the cross over into the church.

So, what to do. I’m secular, though incorporate as much of my early upbringing into my life. (Though I’ve stumbled.) I’m divorced, and the “dating” scene is grim. I’m leary of joining a church because my last few attempts have left me feeling like a pagan, but I’m not sure how else to find traditionally minded men. I’m an outlier in the secular and religious worlds.

The Cottage child over at Laura’s place…

It’s interesting, isn’t it, that women take credit for being civilizing and stabilizing forces? Left to our own devices, cannibalistic sounds more like it.

Terry chimed in at the same thread

And then I see posts like this one and I have to chime in and echo comments like Cottage Child’s. I see not evidence that a culture where women are primarily responsible for maintaining stability is a culture I’d want to be a part of.

Laura (Thinking Housewife) expands on this far better than I could.

My complaint against the women’s franchise is somewhat different from Mr. Auster’s, although I agree with his observation that the entry of large numbers of women in politics in a feminist society has trivialized political discussion.

More importantly, the women’s franchise has hurt marriage. When men vote on behalf of their families, society affirms fatherhood. The male franchise had an important symbolic purpose. It  conveyed what men do. (Society doesn’t need to convey what women do in the family. It’s obvious.) Men lead their families. Without public affirmation of the institution of fatherhood, a community loses its common understanding of this male role.

Men will always overwhelmingly occupy positions of high public power, given their innate competitiveness, aggression and abstract intelligence. However, men are not assured this role in private life. They can, if a society so chooses, be stripped of all effective power within the family.

And when men don’t have a clearly-defined family role, monogamy suffers. It becomes less appealing to both men and women. The more power women gain in the political sphere, the more the private sphere becomes decivilized. Given that this is the sphere in which women truly excel and where they possess their own form of dominance, this means that the lives of many women are worsened and children are relatively neglected.

I’m now going to cheat, as this is old But it fits  because I think Alte is correct in her thesis that Feminism is dead because it is now orthodox, established, followed by lemmings and boring.

You’ll generally find high IQ people at the cutting edge of something, before it becomes very standardized. High-tech start-ups tend to have a lot of them (and are usually male-dominated), then the above-average IQ people eventually trickle in and bureaucratize everything (and the women move in), and the high IQ people bail and move on to something new and exciting. I’ve seen the same effect in labs. Intellectual churn.

It’s the typical “gifted” mixture of distractability and hyperfocusing, which is why ADHD and giftedness are so difficult to separate.

If the smarter women (and Alte is smart) are going away, feminism is fading. When the local girls high school is all about self esteem and high acheivement (and my son had to suffer through such an event this evening because he is in the shared orchestra with a local girls’ high) then we are not preparing people for what is to come.

The older wisdom works. Feminism does not.

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Overnight I have been offensive. I commented to a woman that in marriage she gives up rights to her body. I offended the feminist pieties.

Meh.

Feminism is an idol, and the consequences of idolatry are clear. Feminists either fall in to the Hindu error of worshipping a perfected version of themselves they see in their imagination, or become functional Wiccans, worshipping nature.

Psalm 135: 15-18

15 The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of human hands.16 They have mouths, but they do not speak; they have eyes, but they do not see;17 they have ears, but they do not hear, and there is no breath in their mouths.18 Those who make them and all who trust them shall become like them.

The psalmist indicates that by worshipping something that has no power, one becomes powerless, By worshipping the flawed — and all humans are flawed, that you exaggerate your flaws. If you worship nothing, there is nothing. (Most of us cannot do this. Atheism requires a deep faith, which I lack)

John describes the feminine out of control in his description of Babylon. Love of vice, love of luxury, and a sense that nothing will ever go wrong.

Revelation 18:1-8

¹ After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority; and the earth was made bright with his splendor. ² He called out with a mighty voice, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit a haunt of every foul bird, a haunt of every foul and hateful beast. ³ For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxury.”

⁴ Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you do not take part in her sins, and so that you do not share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Render to her as she herself has rendered, and repay her double for her deeds;   mix a double draught for her in the cup she mixed.  As she glorified herself and lived luxuriously,  so give her a like measure of torment and grief. Since in her heart she says, ‘I rule as a queen; I am no widow, and I will never see grief,’ therefore her plagues will come in a single day —  pestilence and mourning and famine — and she will be burned with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who judges her

Now we are to come out of Babylon. But we are to live in this world. We are told by Paul that we are allowed to talk with those outside the church — we should reserve shunning to those within the church who egregiously break the laws of the Lord and the teaching of the Lord.

When is it time to come out of Babylon? Historically, in the later Roman Empire this passage led to the start of monasticism. Monks preserved the culture of the ancients…during the centuries of war following the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Monks preserved the faith and culture when the Turks over run the Eastern Roman Empire.

In the West, we may not be there yet. But we have to stop giving space to the modern idols, of which feminism is chief. (And yes, it acts as a religion. You can lose your job on the cry of “Sexist” and women who are living in the ways of old are criticised and shunned by wider society.

Which is why I support those groups who are trying to stem the tide. Even though at times they are very girly at times, and I argue theology with them constantly, we need to support those men who are honouring their covenant and the women who are also keeping their vows. Despite the pain and hurt.(Which reminds me, I need to expand my links to these people)

For feminism is not just an idol. Like Babylon of the prophecy, it corrupts and destroys. From it we need to come out.