The Australians have a lot of bad ideas. I’m not anti vaccinations. But the idea of coercing children will backfire.

Most of those of us who are not radically secular mistrust the narrative and consider the schools a vector. Our kids cannot attend your schools? we will build our own.

And not let you regulate them.

One of the freedoms enjoyed by “extremist” religious people in New Zealand may be curtailed under a Labour-led Government.
Health spokesman and Dunedin North MP David Clark said he would support New Zealand following Australia and banning unvaccinated children from child care centres and preschools.

However, the implications of the move would be properly investigated before it was implemented, Dr Clark said.

“Not that long ago most people thought smoking in bars was acceptable,” he said.

Dr Clark, who has a degree in theology and is a Presbyterian minister, said children’s rights were “paramount” in healthcare.

“The rights of children always have to be protected.”

“There are good examples where fringe religions would hold that you can do things to children which most of society would find abhorrent, and I am not at all apologetic about wanting to override those things.

“There might be a need to curtail extremist religious views [in terms of vaccination],” Dr Clark said.

University of Otago preventive and social medicine senior lecturer Dr Richard Egan, an authority on spirituality in health, said there was growing awareness of the importance of spirituality in healthcare.

Dr Egan had not formed a view on the proposed ban on unvaccinated children.

“This would be an interesting consideration which I hadn’t thought about.”

People did not have to be part of an official religion to practise spirituality.

“There’s something called secular spirituality – 88% of New Zealand doesn’t go to church, synagogue or mosque. We’re radically secular in New Zealand.”

Healthcare should be patient and family-led, Dr Egan said.

The bad news is that David Clarke is the more reasonable of the two Dunedin Labour MPs. The fact he is a Presbyterian minister and has a theological degree is noise: the biggest heretic in NZ, Llyod Geering, has a theological degree and was a Presbyterian minister until the church kicked him out.

Note that “welfare for children” is the wedge issue. Parents to not matter. To the narrative, your children are the property of the state, and must be converged.

Do not allow this. And do not accept that the religious will not betray righteous and truth for what they consider, in their deluded mindset. to be a greater good.