It is all about the consequences of behaviour. To start with I need to quote something I said at Vox earlier today…. and give you all a trigger warning. All the tweets are from the Unitarian church, and I did not screenshot the creepiest one with a gay couple, a lesbian couple and an ordinary couple marrying with a girl in the picture. The ick factor got to me, even more than the obligatory use of toddlers as cannon fodder.
The double quote at the beginning relates to something I cannot fix in Vox Populi but I can here: I was quoting John C Wright. He gets the fruit of heresy correct. He missed the cause
And the end result of all this Reformation? Modern lesbian archibishops marrying each other, and celebrating Ramadan! Nicely reformed! And you reintroduced the pagan scourges of divorce and contraception, like immigrants reintroducing diseases we had successfully conquered.
Mr Wright, you are erudite and eloquent. But here you speak of which you do not know. The Reformed churches left these state churches (Staatkirchen) because they were infected with the virus of liberalism in the 60s. The 1860s. Over a hundred years, the Anglicans, Lutherans and Kirk of Scotland went from preaching the gospel and converting Africa, Asia and Oceania to the travesty you mention.
Not because of the reformation or reformed theology. The reformed fought them every step of the way, to the point where we have been cast out of their churches, — there have been places where we have won in part (for nothing in this life is perfect).
But liberalism got into the Catholics in the 1960s, and the virus seems to be just as destructive on that side of the Tiber. It is going to be true believers that survive this, not those who like the form of religion but despise the discipline of it, and disavow the power of God
Well the liberals (yes, those Unitarian tweets have utility, the serve as warnings) have produced fruit. We have guilt ridden women, who demand that they are allowed full approval, full control, and that nothing ever goes wrong. As if this world is perfect.
The sensible pagans are not that stupid: the libertarians are not that stupid. They know that adults are accountable, and that errors need to be fixed.
Part of it has to be related to the institutional care model. From infancy, many of these children have been raised in highly structured settings, monitored relentlessly, and never allowed to take any risks that mommy might disapprove of from her cubicle across town. Mommy’s all-consuming guilt at paying the hired help to raise her children results in a hypervigilance that denies children the freedom to just be, well, children. Leonore Skenazy is engaged in a push-back against paranoid parenting called Free Range Kids that encourages parents to relax and let their kids learn some lessons the hard way, but for most parents, the thought of allowing Parker or Petal the freedom to walk a block to the park by themselves is inconceivable! And if Parker and Petal can’t navigate the suburban jungle of leafy sidewalks and hybrid cars, how on earth are they going to manage college, never mind the real word of recalcitrant cable companies and obnoxious tax-collectors?
I think there’s more to it than just mentally and emotionally crippled adults raised on Special Snowflake Farms (aka daycares) – and I think it gets right to the heart of what I find so off-putting about the entire mindset of the traditional left
But the left are dying, religious left included. Despite their tags. For they are in love with death. So instead the project hatred.
Thank you for this analysis. It helps me to see why I feel so pressured by the media and even psychologists to find flaws in my relationship and bitch about it. My marriage is the most important aspect of my life and I’m glad that I’ve found ways to improve it and protect my heart and my mind from this divorce oriented and man hating society. Men seem so “disposable”, as I hear through the media and some women close to me. But no woman friend of mine, hard core feminist or anyone else would truly love me and make me feel protected as much as my husband does. I wish they would stop trying to destroy our families and make it seem natural and empowering to us women. It’s all so negative to society, since I don’t want to live in a world with mostly half brothers and broken families. There’s nothing empowering about living alone with 20 cats while bitching about patriarchy.
Now, there is an alternative. It is Christ. It is the teaching of Christ. But these are deemed, by the progressive left, as false, evil, disgusting, intolerant and, if not unchristian, at least un-unitarian.
I just thought of an interesting test. Find a churchgoing conservative feminist, and ask her how she’d react to the idea of noncloseted, i.e. openly honest lesbians attending her church. Then find out how she’d feel about a heterosexual couple that practices male headship openly attending her church. Which case would induce some sympathy, which would lead to some degree of outrage? Which pair is favored by the popular culture and which is denigrated by that culture?
Which pair would she feel compelled to welcome, which pair would she tend to reject?
Ah, but which one is in line with text from the Bible, and which case is not? I think this could provide some real entertainment in certain denominations, for men with the right sense of humor.
Let us make it clear. The Lesbian couple are living in sin. As would a gay couple, or a straight unmarried couple who are sexually interacting. The idea of marriage is commitment and covenant… and consent. It is agreeing to “yes” to the teachings of Christ and the apostles. It is agreeing (and this drives the progressives to hives) that we were created as male and female and this is good. It is accepting that there are differences.
But it is the traditional christians who are in the closet. Those of us who try, even imperfectly, to obey the commands of Christ. Including those around Godly singleness and Holy Matrimony.
The progressives — particularly the Unitarians — want to keep the form of religion and deny the power of it, making all part of their progressive politics. And the fruit of this is… death.
There are alternatives. Godly singleness is one. Or putting your energy into providing for, and raising a family. In the end family matters more than promotions and far more than politics.
Besides, caring for your family, providing for them, loving your wife, respecting your husband and raising your kids is… biblical. Let the progressives die with this culture. We have the task of preserving the good.
Oh look, yet another reactionary Papist blames Prots.
{Yawn}
I only like to associate with them who don’t blame us for everything, just as I don’t blame them for everything; I’ll have nothing to do with some people you like to quote who even dislike your doing so of them, just because you’re Protestant. Why you even therefore bother, I cannot fathom. There are others who aren’t so stridently denouncing of us, who even are willing to find common ground; they’re much more deserving.
The reactionary Papists have one virtue. They believe in the gospel, albeit with errors. The Progressive Unitarians believe only the errors
For my part, I have alienated silly small-minded chauvinists of all stripes, and will continue to do so – gladly!