Over at Elspeth there is some fresh meat, courtesy of the culture. And these women are having a culture shock, because they have not encountered women such as Alte, or Elspeth. They believe the pretty lies: that it is all because patriarchy and women who live in any other way are unenlightened. And then they go to one of the TC blogs. And they cannot believe these women.

Particularly when the lies of our society are made plain.

The short answer to the patriarchial question is that women still benefit from patriarchy (male protection and provision) but no longer have corresponding responsibilities. Basically, any “rights” women have is because men decided we should have them and if enough men decide they should be taken away, they will be.

Well, I thought it was clear, but these women have been truly indoctrinated. So V. lets fly. I love this woman as a sister: anyone who can write like this needs our support (and prayers).

She starts fairly mildly, with these wonderful things called facts.

…the majority of women are not working in essential or productive labor. Their work is heavily subsidized by taxpayers, their employers, and their husbands. Most of them would add more to the GDP by staying home and making babies.

Also, their “work hobbies” lead to wealth-draining effects like divorce, depressing men’s wages and productivity, inflation, and the educational and moral destruction of the next generation.

Check out work productivity statistics for Germany. And then check out women’s employment statistics. We are, by far, the most efficient large economy in the world. We are currently the engine of growth for the entire world. And that is because women here mostly keep their ass home, where it belongs.

While I am at this, the all men are violent meme was raised. Again. As if women are not: they are, and this is not an acceptable statement among the feminist elite. But an elite they are, and subverting them is a duty.

The study team were surprised at the level of violence shown by some women, revealed in answers to an anonymous questionnaire.

Dr Bates, who presented her findings at the annual meeting of the forensic division of the British Psychological Society, in Glasgow, said: ‘It wasn’t just pushing and shoving. Some people were circling the boxes for things like beating up, kicking, and threatening to use a weapon.’

She added men may be starting to report the issue more often. ‘A contributing factor could be that in the past women have talked about it more,’ she said. ‘The feminist movement made violence towards women something we talk about.

‘Now there is more support for men and more of them are feeling comfortable coming forward.’

V then got a bit scathing about the eliteness of feminism: particularly on how it affects men and black women: being a mother of sons and minority, she has reasons to be concerned. (these are posted out of order in the conversation, the other person was truly asinine. But she makes the point. Clearly.

“If you can point out some patriarchal privileges that women gave I’d love to hear it.”

Civilization. The whole, entire thing. Really. Women are society, men are civilization.

You’re not getting answers to this request because it’s so asinine. The more interesting question would be: is there any advance or benefit that does not trace back to patriarchy?

“When you specialize in engineering you ought to be efficient and productive.”

Yeah, but I was the only female engineer in a group of 25 engineers. German workers are so crazy-expensive that they can’t afford to hire you unless you earn them a net-profit.

“The divorce rate in Germany is just slightly better than the US.”

This is true, but German divorcees get chump-change in child support and no alimony. They usually end up on welfare and have to work part-time, so nearly all of them find a new man fast.

Those things are privileges for women because men aren’t required to share. Men are doing those things for themselves and for us. They could just let us fend for ourselves and then we’d have to earn those efforts, rather than getting everything for free just cuz we’re cute and they’re in love.

Look to any failed state. Lots of prostitutes, slaves, and single moms in huts, with a few very lucky women called “wives”. Wives are the ones who have the privileges.
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Black women are masochists. Feminism is so bad for black women that it isn’t even funny. But black women have a slave mentality that leads to them doing whatever dumb ass thing some crazy, undersexed white woman has dreamed up.

It doesn’t have to make sense. It doesn’t have to profit them. They just want whatever the missus is having, in the hopes that they might eventually end up at the Big House.

Yes, missus. No, missus. Great idea, missus.

If only we’d start thinking for ourselves, for once.

I agree with V. The trouble is that many women ignore those who they do not desire. They do not see the provision tha happens. They do not see the women only spaces. They do not see that men censor themselves around women.

And most women, particularly feminist women, are too scared to go and look at what men think. Particularly men who have seen the full force of the family courts fall on them because their wife was unhappy and frivorced them. They do not see the anger: instead they see (and chase the successful one percent. Well, perhaps ten percent. But the bulk of society is not celebrity.

And what is the Violence against women act, the sexual harassment training industry, and white ribbon, but institutionalized violence against men, and propaganda against men?

Because I understand the local data fairly well. The first thing that the authors do is describe the study — it is a cohort of around 1000 people born in 1972 that are still being followed up, with about a 90% participation rate. Secondly, they described the instruments they used: which to my eyes are fairly standard and straightforward.

And now the results. Note that there are hundreds in the Dunedin Survey. Also note that NZ women are fairy free: we are part of the West, and I do not joke when I comment that the town is more left-wing than places like Berkeley in the US.

Now, anyone who blames the patriarchy for what is — when you ask everyone — a human problem is a fool. Anyone who uses the police to force speech codes on people, and imprisons people because of an ideology is a fascist. And anyone who follows the feminist ideology that fears and suspects 49% of the population because penis — particularly when at least 95% of women love these creatures called men, does not see the beauty in love, in desire, and in men wanting to do things to make the woman they love happy.