Liberals are boring and without imagination. They spend all their time fighting over things that do not really matter but ignore the issues of justice and righteousness. Glyn Cardy, who is the Liberal’s liberal in Auckland, decided to stir up controversy… by repeating tired liberal tropes about the gheyz. I hope the Presbyterians ask him if he will abide by the Westminster Confession (which drives the issue on marriage for the reformed and hold him to it). For the Anglicans are clearly glad to see him go.
The vicar said his comments were in relation to the church’s position on gay and lesbian people getting married or ordained when they have partners.
“It’s really about when the church gets out of step with society and society loses confidence in the church as having a strong moral compass.
“I think the church for many years has been seen as a model that tries to promote good values in society and I think the church has done that well in times in pointing our different issues of justice and promoting honesty and kindness,” he said.
“I think that society and science have said that gay people should be treated like anyone else and if the church continues to discriminate the confidence society has in it will diminish.”
He said the church could be left behind “as a relic” and needed to change to have society’s confidence as a moral body to be listened to.
The vicar has made an application to become a minister with the Presbyterian Church.
He said St Matthews had been a leader in fighting for the rights of sexual minorities, dating back to 1974 when they hosted the country’s first congregation explicitly for gay and lesbian Christians.
Anglican Church spokesman Lloyd Ashton said he didn’t want to comment because Reverend Cardy “says what he says” and he didn’t want to engage with it.
Ray Coster, moderator of the Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand, said: “By upholding the historic Christian understanding of marriage as the loving, faithful union of a man and a woman, we are being faithful to what we understand Christ is calling us to as a church.
Matt Forney ain’t no believer, but he writes honestly. And he’s seeing the consequences of internationalization in the poor counties of the USA.
The reason is because there’s a mass of “hungry, tired and poor” already in America. They live in places like Methlab County, New York, where the economy has been devastated by outsourcing and mass immigration. They dutifully followed the script society handed them only to get fucked and left on the side of the road at the most vulnerable stage of their lives.
And you worthless leftist hypocrites not only don’t care about them, you mock them.
While you pump your fists in a “Million Hoodie March,” deifying a middle-class thug wannabe, you attack the residents of Methlab County as “white trash.” While you instigate witch hunts against researchers who show that Latinos have a lower mean IQ than whites, you gleefully bash rural whites as “stupid” and “ignorant.” You’ll piously cry about “racism” and “bigotry” when it comes to foreigners who would gladly slit your throats and gut your corpses, but you openly disdain people in your own country who look like you.
“Eww, those people listen to country music and probably go to church, too. Grooooooss!”
[No, I am not going to censor his language. I swear. More than I should. Disdaining the poor in your nation because they are not culturally enriched is a greater offense].
The Liberals bleat about the gays not being married in church. Meh. They can get married anywhere, by any celebrant, but the church is not here to be nice, but to preserve the good and do good. Which requires bleak honesty and plain speaking far more than mealy words. In fact, we should pray for the poor gay bastards who marry, for they will find the family court intrusion in their lives just as disgusting as the rest of us have.
Our churches need to separate from the culture of today, for it tired, and choose life instead.
1As he came out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher, what large stones and what large buildings!” 2Then Jesus asked him, “Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left here upon another; all will be thrown down.”
3When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John, and Andrew asked him privately, 4“Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign that all these things are about to be accomplished?” 5Then Jesus began to say to them, “Beware that no one leads you astray. 6Many will come in my name and say, ‘I am he!’ and they will lead many astray. 7When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed; this must take place, but the end is still to come. 8For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in various places; there will be famines. This is but the beginning of the birth pangs.
9“As for yourselves, beware; for they will hand you over to councils; and you will be beaten in synagogues; and you will stand before governors and kings because of me, as a testimony to them. 10And the good news must first be proclaimed to all nations. 11When they bring you to trial and hand you over, do not worry beforehand about what you are to say; but say whatever is given you at that time, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. 12Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death; 13and you will be hated by all because of my name. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”
So let’s unpack this a bit. Our liberal prelate — jumping from the Anglican liberal arm to the Presbyterian liberal arm — considers the church as part of society. Christ says instead that at the end we will be shunned. We will be persecuted. We will be driven out of society.
And that many will believe the old lies. Those boring lies.
Which leads to the second accusation I have against the liberal arm of the church: they are afraid of our society. They are afraid to speak plainly. They are not prepared to discuss how the poor are kept in poverty by policies “for the children” and by the institution of intergenerational welfare: they want to fit in to the Senior Common Room, with the correct views, and sit brandy worrying about trivia. They are not courageous, they are cowards.
And that cowardice repels. The reformed, the catholic, the mormons and even the islamists — those who preach obedience, honour and justice, who challenge, who accept accountability and its handmaiden guilt — will grow, for a man can see that his courage has a place.
But not in liberalism, which lies, and lies, and in doing so becomes passe. Look at Tori’s clip. Tori’s a liberal: but her daughter is b-o-r-e-d with the issues that worry her mother. As it has always been.
The real problem with liberalism is that it is the form of religion, made boring, done by cowards, lacking power. And since the reformed, Mr Cardy, continually reform themselves, find your spine and preach the gospel, not some simpering platitudes.