We do indeed live in interesting times. Dalrock has another description of the state of Evangelical Marriage up, One of the commentators has a list of tells as to who is really got the power… in homes.
What would things be like if I was making the lists…? That’s… that’s… *unthinkable*! The house would surely collapse in ruin within a year….
Ah well.
Here are some other tells.
* Who sets the social calendar?
* Does the wife give the husband an allowance from the family budget?
* Does the husband have to earn a “kitchen pass” before he is allowed to leave the house on evenings and weekends?
* Is the husband actually allowed to leave the house…? Ever…?
* Do men at the church meet at fast food restaurants and coffee shops because they wouldn’t dare to ever impose on the hospitality of the wives?
* Do the wives even know what hospitality is?
* If you ask a guy to do something socially and he agrees to come… does he end up calling you the next day to tell you that his wife has something else planned for him…?
Now, speaking as a solo Dad, I set the agenda, do all these things… and I still meet at coffee shops because I have to work around and with the situations my friends are in — and we often meet during business hours, during lunch breaks. Besides, Coffee is part of NZ culture — I would never, ever go to certain coffee shops at 1030 because the true power broking in Dunedin is occurring as the women meet over coffee or brunch.
I think the Dalrock has got Shelia Greigore’s position wrong. And I think it is because she is talking to girls. She is trying to teach them how to love their children and husbands… (which is a correct thing for women to do in the church) and she continually uses lists
And she knows about the need for men to be around.
But… I can (and at times have) had to care tor the children. by. myself. Unlike most women, I know doing that and working full time is a recipe for exhaustion: I get help. The domestic chores are done.
The house has not collapsed five years after the divorce. However, we are all now cautious, careful, battleworn. We are not wanting to return to a soft tyranny, where we feel that we have targets on our backs every time we interact with any woman or child. The only good thing that may come out of this economic crisis is the collapse of the Liberal or Social democratic system, because it has truly destroyed the health of marriage, and is now trying to destroy the forms of it. while hubristically claiming that their promotion of vice is virtue.
Let us test the motives in this approach to a household. It is clear that tidying the house, clearing table, etc is important to Gregoire, and so she uses lists. Very well, let us apply the same method to something that men regard as important.
Imagine the reaction from Gregoire and her clutch of hens if men were to present them with a to-do list for the bedroom. “I need the following things done on a regular basis…and with good cheer & enthusiasm“. What would the result be? Would it be a whirling, Tasmanian devil? Well, maybe in some form. But not necessarily a positive one.
List for the gander -> great idea
List for the goose -> not so good.
The conclusion: wifey’s requirements are of paramount importance, hubby’s requirements are of little importance if even that.
Now, what does this say about “motive”, again?
The better response it that it is my house and we shall do things to my standards…
I think Mrs. Gregoire has good intentions, in her own mind, at least.
Now, what was the road to hell paved with, again? Right…