Comments on: The opiate receptor will not save you. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:06:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.3 By: This Week In Reaction (2017/04/02) - Social Matter https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7557 Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:56:26 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7557 […] Chris Gale notes, with a lift from JAMA this week, The opiate receptor will not save you: […]

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By: pukeko https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7548 Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:28:49 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7548 Crystal is too toxic. We had an epidemic of it a decade ago. When the gangs stop pushing it because it is ruining their families, and that happened…. the drug does not last.

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By: Bike bubba https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7547 Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:11:50 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7547 Interesting that singleness–voluntary or otherwise–is a powerful predictor.

I personally remember having morphine to kill the pain when I had surgery, and while it killed the pain, there was no euphoria. Asked a doctor friend of mine why some people respond to it quite differently, and one hypothesis is that the euphoric reaction seems to correlate really well with life sucking.

Now I don’t know if that’s statistically defensible, but it strikes me that if there’s anything to that, then one could theoretically test for depression after any significant surgery with how the person responds to painkillers. Alternatively, one could adjust painkillers based on a history of depression to avoid problems.

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By: Will S. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7540 Thu, 30 Mar 2017 00:03:14 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7540 I think crystal meth is a bigger problem than opiates, frankly, but that’s just a layman’s opinion; I could be wrong. But I remember how big that was, when I lived in western Canada…

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By: pukeko https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7539 Wed, 29 Mar 2017 23:03:48 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7539 We don’t have the Oxycont issue because it is a controlled drug. Tramadol is our equivelant.

When I go to professional meetings in Canada the smugness of the elite is nauseating: the bill of rights is seen as gospel and CANMEDs as the prophets. But the social dysfunction is high, even when I go to the Prairie.

And in Canada, the truth is always insensitive. I’m worried I will be stopped at the border when I go to visit the family there…

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By: Will S. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2017/03/the-opiate-receptor-will-not-save-you/comment-page-1/#comment-7538 Wed, 29 Mar 2017 22:42:28 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=12976#comment-7538 Here, while OxyContin / Oxycodone abuse has been a big social problem amongst the underclass for over a decade and a half, now some middle class kids are messing with fentanyl, carfentanil, and other opiates / opioids, and so now our politicians are declaring ‘Crisis!’ and ‘Epidemic!’, and engaging in political grandstanding over the ‘issue’ (as if it were a major issue, rather than a few idiot teens here and there).

That’s what I was bitching about here and here.

Some neoreactionary would-be commenter conflated my commentary on these few middle-class Canadian idiots with the wider North American working class opiate problem, and accused me of insensitivity among other things. Idiot didn’t read both posts, else he’d have known what I was talking about.

Anyway, I would love to see politicians actually tackle the problem of opiate abuse among those in lower socioeconomic groups. But they won’t, because they only care about a few of their own kids and those of their richest supporters, not those of the hated underclass.

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