Comments on: We need a second reformation. Involving the Prots and Romans. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Wed, 21 Feb 2018 02:55:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4 By: This Week in Reaction (2016/01/17) – The Reactivity Place https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6588 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:51:37 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6588 […] encouraging sign, Chris Gale thinks We need a second reformation. Involving the Prots and Romans. Since the first one didn’t actually reform anything, but rather split the Western Church in […]

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By: Will S. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6559 Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:11:54 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6559 I don’t know how tall Saint Nicholas was, but I love that he punched Arius, ostensibly. 🙂

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By: Chris Gale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6555 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:54:11 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6555 Francis A Schaeffer was short, blunt, and of a previous generation.
But, Sean, that did not work: neither did the work of Padre Pio, who literally punched people out.

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By: Looking Glass https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6554 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:38:02 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6554 Google isn’t helping me figure out the reference. 🙂

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By: Sean https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6553 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:38:20 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6553 Of course, maybe we could just find a 5 foot tall man to go about punching heretics. I’ve heard that has worked previous.

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By: Looking Glass https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6552 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:19:42 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6552 For as much as the Great Schism and the Reformation had a theological underlayer to them, the problem is always this: when the Church refuses to remove the perverse & corrupt from its midst, it falls into apostasy. For all intents & purposes, the Reformation kicked off because Luther quite accurately pointed out our the evil of corrupting the faith to build monuments.

The problem, for anyone that knows their history, is this process only happens in one way. Kindest way to say it is “go full King Hezekiah”. I don’t look forward to the process. But the Lord will set fire to the branches He cuts off. Be that I am not one of them is my daily prayer and drive.

This: co-sign

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By: hearthie https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6550 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:10:44 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6550 Ah well, your Arminian sister believes that we all have free will to choose God – “Thy will be done” or self, “My will be done”. Unfortunately too many choose the latter, including within the Church. Not universal salvation, for certain.

Say after me, our theology of salvation is but a model. We do not know the depths of mercy God had.

God bless you, Sister

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By: Chris Gale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6549 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 01:49:29 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6549 Dear Sean, Will and Brown, your points are valid. However, Will got the Latin tag correct: I did not.

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By: Sean https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6546 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:50:06 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6546 Semper reformanda indeed.

Problem is that lots of Prots aren’t ones of conviction but of convenience. There aren’t nearly enough who can articulate the solae, who can argue why the Romanists are wrong theologically, or even why the first one happened.

The problem here, on content, is not with the crunchy Romans or Reformed. The intellectuals in both groups (and both attract intellectuals) know the solae, know the arguments before and against them, and have searched the scripture. But the crunchy are not running modern churches. Instead the feel good, virtue signalling are.

They tend to corruption. Semper Ecclesiae Refomrans, and in this time more than most

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By: Brown https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2016/01/we-need-a-second-reformation-involving-the-prots-and-romans/comment-page-1/#comment-6545 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:29:26 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=8553#comment-6545 I’m not sure we will get a second reformation because, sadly, the church is not a significant feature in general life today and the leadership is of a style that Latimer preached against in the 1500’s. Its a double whammy.

What we may get is a revival as those seem to pop up where and when you least expect it although I do wonder if God has given the west over to man to indulge himself in nonsense.

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