Comments on: The Penrose hypothesis in the 21st century: revisiting the asylum https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/08/the-penrose-hypothesis-in-the-21st-century-revisiting-the-asylum/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:49:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.4 By: Chris Gale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/08/the-penrose-hypothesis-in-the-21st-century-revisiting-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6163 Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:34:40 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=7318#comment-6163 And they forget the Victorians took the idea of humane treatment from the York Retreat. Run by Quakers.

You forgot they blame Mental Health for “letting them go”. Most people are not dangerous: but some truly are. And those people stay in limited acute beds, denying succor to those who need them.

They shut the asylums as I begam ny Psychiatry Training. I hope we reopen them (the ideal size is known: 200 beds) before I retire.

]]> By: Mick https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/08/the-penrose-hypothesis-in-the-21st-century-revisiting-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6161 Sun, 30 Aug 2015 04:46:12 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=7318#comment-6161 The same people who de-institutionalised the mentally unwell, releasing them into ‘community care’ would have a fit if someone suggested the same logic should apply to opening the gates at the zoo. Kine and predator alike, let out to find their own level in surrounding nature, would be much better than having them cooped up in cages. No?

]]> By: hearthie https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/08/the-penrose-hypothesis-in-the-21st-century-revisiting-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6160 Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:10:54 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=7318#comment-6160 Pretty much what LG said. I mind a few years back when a man ran up to a lady in the Toys R Us parking lot, stabbed her (killed her) and then flung himself to the ground, awaiting the arrival of police. Didn’t know her, she wasn’t even a local.

Even families here in the US can’t make their mentally ill family members accept treatment past age 18. The laws are beyond insane.

]]> By: Looking Glass https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/08/the-penrose-hypothesis-in-the-21st-century-revisiting-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6159 Sat, 29 Aug 2015 06:32:18 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=7318#comment-6159 The two largest psychiatric hospitals in the world are the USA’s two largest prisons. (LA County & Cook County [Chicago]) We do “deal” with these people’s problems, but not until they’ve attacked someone. Or, very sadly, they die on the street. It’s pretty horrible, but it made the bleeding hearts feel better. (And it saved some money, for a decade)

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