Comments on: Is unity coming with increased opposition? [Jn 17] https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/04/is-unity-coming-with-increased-opposition-jn-17/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:32:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.2 By: You cannot afford to be nice. [I Jn 2] | Dark Brightness https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/04/is-unity-coming-with-increased-opposition-jn-17/comment-page-1/#comment-4926 Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:12:50 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=6259#comment-4926 […] I currently attend a Presbyteran church and am amazed at the lack of theologcal knowledge among the supposed elders and leaders. In my vew these are dangerous people that can lead many astray. The Presby church has great doctrnal statements of fath yet many seem to have no knowledge of these and wll look at every new dea and “sm” that comes along. The preachng s often flmsy and there was even a statement recently that the subject was hard and the preacher struggled wth t – the lack of effort was obvous. If that was the case why not ask someone who has more experence – they are out there, or look up Spurgeon and hs lk. There seems ncreasngly to be no real understandng of the power of God and the fact of the vctory of the death, resurrecton and ascenson of Chrst. Where s the Gospel message? […]

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By: pukeko https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/04/is-unity-coming-with-increased-opposition-jn-17/comment-page-1/#comment-4923 Mon, 13 Apr 2015 05:53:57 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=6259#comment-4923 Very topcal at ths tme, Acts s.

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By: hearthie https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/04/is-unity-coming-with-increased-opposition-jn-17/comment-page-1/#comment-4922 Mon, 13 Apr 2015 02:07:12 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=6259#comment-4922 Pastor Mke s gong to start preachng through the book of Acts… wll be very relevant. I look forward to t!

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By: Brown https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2015/04/is-unity-coming-with-increased-opposition-jn-17/comment-page-1/#comment-4921 Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:35:32 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=6259#comment-4921 I thnk we wll ncreasngly become one n the short term just to survve but when the real tests come along many wll fall away and t wll revert to those relatve few wth fath to endure.

I currently attend a Presbyteran church and am amazed at the lack of theologcal knowledge among the supposed elders and leaders. In my vew these are dangerous people that can lead many astray. The Presby church has great doctrnal statements of fath yet many seem to have no knowledge of these and wll look at every new dea and “sm” that comes along. The preachng s often flmsy and there was even a statement recently that the subject was hard and the preacher struggled wth t – the lack of effort was obvous. If that was the case why not ask someone who has more experence – they are out there, or look up Spurgeon and hs lk. There seems ncreasngly to be no real understandng of the power of God and the fact of the vctory of the death, resurrecton and ascenson of Chrst. Where s the Gospel message?

There seems to be a consstency n revvals and that s the realsaton of that great queston when confronted by sn – “What must I do to be saved?”

A good frend, a retred Anglcan mnster, blames the charsmatc movement for the declne from the 1950’s and 60’s where some real growth was appearng. The “experence” type servce came along and many flocked to t. It was a shadow of realty and my frend beleves t was Satan posng as lght that was behnd t. The musc, the drummng – always n the background, untl we gve n a pretend to be saved whle lookng forward to another fx next week. No room for quet contemplaton of our condton and the securty of the ndwellng Holy Sprt.

Its a bt depressng on the surface but there’s always somethng great gong on somewhere – usually where ts darkest. Maybe we are just not at that pont yet?

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