Comments on: Clans, quivers, hope [Ps 127]

By: A.B Prosper

Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:43:54 +0000

bike bubba, I don’t disagree that welfare system has negative effects on the patriarchal family but its also incumbent to remember that the US had birth rates plummet in the 1930’s when the Welfare state was tiny, there was no birth control and it was more or less a quite religious patriarchy. It was about what it was in 2009 actually, just below replacement and around that of the 1970’s. No birth control, no feminism required.

Our host here is most correct in saying children are a blessing , I couldn’t agree more but they still cost money to raise and life in poverty is a curse . Since majority of people in the West of peak fertile age cannot make ends meet especially if they add more than one child , they are doing the right thing and not having children they cannot afford.

As for capitalism, the only reason the US or the west has a middle class at all is the State intervening. It was state action and the threat of mass strikes and our communist/socialist/fascist overthrow that prompted workers safety and the minimum wage and created the middle class.

The number of voluntary practitioners of Henry Fordism is too small to support an economy. The classic example in the Kellogg Company. For years they got everything done in a 30 hour work week but sooner than later, the shareholder hungry for more power of the workers and thinking somehow they were cheated, crammed a 40 hour work week down their throats.

The net result, less productivity and a less happy work force. No economic benefit at all. They thing is the calculus involved isn’t rational, its about power and status and a dopamine high you can no more reason with someone like that than you can any other drug addict.

The situation we have now is a product of automation and the lack of fear of reprisal from the State or alternate state arrangements or mobs as of yet and that vast dichotomy between the wealthy and the rest of us is creating the birth dearth.

The best solution though is not a welfare state but to change the incentives to what G.K. Chesterton called Distributism. Otherwise the smart people will not reproduce and the dysgenic pressures will swamp us.

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By: bike bubba

Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:17:53 +0000

AB, if capitalism has destroyed the family, please explain to me why the marriage rate has plunged as the size of the state (as measured as % of GDP and in absolute terms) has skyrocketed.

Socialism is what is destroying the family by removing the need for the husband and father–or at least removing the perceivedneed for the same, to be more specific.

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By: pukeko

Tue, 24 Mar 2015 05:11:31 +0000

It is not necessarily capitalism, but the regulations that restrict land use and make building expensive: that make hiring others risky, and force businesses to fill forms that the bureaucracy lose.

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By: A.B Prosper

Tue, 24 Mar 2015 03:23:26 +0000

Capitalism is at fault here. Remember half of all young euro Folk under 30 in the US and everywhere else lack the basic resources for family formation, steady income, enough for a place to live and so.

They get by on the dole and wisely looking at that life a great many of them, among them out solid middle have said “I’m not raising a child in this poverty”

Its the right thing to do.

White people in general want children and even the lowest fertility rates have TFR numbers that suggest that the average family size would be well above replacement if the were jobs for most,

Its just the elite either don’t care or the ones that do to some degree are saying “well they raised kids in squalid rookeries before, why aren’t they now?”

we fix that, make incomes go up, get steady work for people and Europeans will have plenty of children, 2 or more in most cases.

Get rid of Cultural Marxism and ethnic guilt and you’ll have even more, maybe enough for them to grow.

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