Comments on: Churchianity will fail [quotage] https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/12/churchianity-will-fail-quotage/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:59:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4 By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/12/churchianity-will-fail-quotage/comment-page-1/#comment-3956 Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:04:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=5406#comment-3956 Good point, Will: there is a certain tribal nature to the old order Mennonites (Amish) that means that leaving them involves leaving your volk.

And most churches had a bit of that within them: because the church is the instrument of Christ and the way to salvation (and to quote the Church fathers — if you are not in a Church you are not of Christ) excommunication and shunning had effect. But when you turn the gospel into a watered down buddhist narrative and have no church discipline then the memes of the world trump the teaching of the church.

And this world calls marriage a sexual union, for pleasure, that is fungible. The church calls it holy, righteous, and for the raising of Godly children: a holy work, a worthwhile vocation. The church is more realistic: for within marriage and raising a family there are many tears and multiple frustrations.

But in steadfastness and fidelity to your word you will reap joy. The joy you see in the Godly long married, and the joy I lost when my marriage imploded.

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By: Wiless https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/12/churchianity-will-fail-quotage/comment-page-1/#comment-3954 Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:58:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=5406#comment-3954 Speaking mostly or only Plattdeutsch and avoiding English has also helped isolate the Anabaptizers.
Those of us who aren’t a linguistic minority don’t have the ability to replicate those conditions readily.

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