Comments on: The dark satanic mill and collateral damage.

By: pukeko

Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:15:50 +0000

You are a better soul than I am. I weep not enough

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By: Hearthrose

Wed, 05 Nov 2014 05:38:00 +0000

I agree about the over interpretation of the seasons and times. I got into that for a few years, and then thrown out for not being quite as intense about it (err.. cans do math, not four horsemen yet). But the POINT of watching the sky is if you see the dust cloud on the horizon, you make preparations. You don’t just stand there, you do something. In my case, that’s been more intense prayer for conversion and general friend-pestering, and taking my Christian witness extremely seriously. Should I think that we have another 50 years for my friends to get around to converting? What if my hypocritical moment turns them away from the truth? Will they have time to get right again? Things that keep me up at night. If you only had six months to live….

Agree about Fourth Turning too – if we don’t see Jesus, we’re gonna see something. I’d rather see Jesus.

Agree also that it’s not going to be Baptists without everyone else – IMO it’s about relationship with Christ, being real, being tight, being true to Him. Most professing will be “left behind”, which is, again, something to stay up at night weeping over.

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By: chrisgale

Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:59:00 +0000

The cleansing fire will fall, agreed. And it will hit the church as hard as anyone, for much of the church is apostate. I don’t see, for instance, all Papists or Orthodox being left behind while the Baptists meet the returning Christ in the air. And I tend towards a post tribulational rapture rather than pre-tribulation.

What I see is the end of a secular cycle — a bit like Alte talked about when she read the Fourth Turning. We had a period when we could have reformed: if the Jesus Freaks had reformed the hippies we would have had three generations of righteousness. Instead that generation went simultaneously mystical and materialistic: its hero is that Buddhist billionaire, Steve Jobs, And we are paying now for the consequences of the last two generations wilful disregard of the laws of nature and of God.

We may be called to repentance and revival: such has been the cycle in the past, and that is what I am praying for. However, there has been a great falling away… and the end is getting closer each year.
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I do think that over interpreting this season and this time is an error. Four moons? Dunno. It is like the prophecy of St Malachi — part superstition, part correct, hard to tell. As humans we deceive ourselves by making patterns out of what is random.,

Where I agree and want to reinforce is that unless there is repentance, the next revolution will not lead to righteousness but evil, and that society will be destroyed. Consider the worship of the Aryan tribe leading to National Socialism. Or, more local to you, the destruction of the cults of human sacrifice that the Mayan and Aztec civilizations had.

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By: Hearthrose

Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:08:00 +0000

My End Times theology tends to be Misslerian (unsurprising, since he and I are in the same non-denominational denomination).

On one hand, you get that desire for cleansing fire. On the other… it’s not going to be pretty. I pray for lots of conversions during the dark hours. That’s the real point, right? More souls saved.

Do I believe that the fire will bring perfection? -laughs- No. I believe it will bring AntiChrist, and Tribulation, and then our Lord will come and clear things up. *That* is what the signs point to, that’s what our world is preparing its heart to embrace. I believe in the Rapture of the saints… although I don’t argue about it, because it’s not as if you’re going to miss the boat if you disagree and I’m right. I also don’t worry about it, because if the Lord chooses not to Rapture us out, no worries, it won’t be that long and we’ll be dead as martyrs or the Lord will come back to reign. He’s good for it, you know?

All that said… maybe we can see a temporary return from the edge, but I don’t believe it. And I don’t think we get another cycle of revolution-reformation-renewal, and I don’t think that stupid sinful humans are going to make the world a perfect place so Jesus can come back to a bed of roses.

But it’s all good. Jesus has control. I’m in for the ride…………

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