Comments on: Sluthood removes discernment. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Thu, 26 Nov 2015 22:24:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: Wiless https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/comment-page-1/#comment-3806 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:12:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=4668#comment-3806 I’m pro-Christians-in-the-Middle-East (both in Muslim countries / areas AND Messianic Jews, etc. in Israel), and neutral on the Israeli-Arabs conflict. I don’t see we have a dog in that fight, when our own people, in all different countries over there, are suffering.
Like J, I’d like to see us doing what we can to support them, and I think disengagement from the region by the West would go a long way to doing so. Because they tend to get scapegoated when others get killed by western bombs…

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/comment-page-1/#comment-3805 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:01:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=4668#comment-3805 Well, This is a Kiwi Blog. I have just been in OZ where the issues around a kiddie holding up a head basically made the enire nation puke.

Locally, it’s all about Gaza.

I am Protestant. In fact, I’m worse than that: I’m Reformed — I hang around the Calvinists most of the time.

I would look at the results.

Israel is a democracy, fairly wealthy, where Muslims can vote. In general, people there have a reasonable life.

The rest of the Middle Eest — not so. The most noxious bunch is ISIS, who are killing anyone they disagree with, including Shi’ites (ISIS is Sunni). Over at Patheos is a link to various Islamic leaders who are basically saying these guys are evil

We don’t need to think revelations. This bunch are evil.

On the bigger issue — Islamic states regress in direct proportionality to how nasty they are to Jews and Christians. The Ottomans, at their best, treated all three religions as fairly equal (which is why the Jews hung around: the Catholics were running inquistions then). Consider for a second, Pakistan and India.

Pakistan had more infrastructure than India at the time of Partition. They now are backwards: India is now heading towards being fully developed.

Judge by the consequences. And using that rule, most of your comment is simply noise.

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/comment-page-1/#comment-3804 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 05:54:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=4668#comment-3804 There are some decent women out there. But a good wife has always been as precious as rubies. And about as rare.

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By: J https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/comment-page-1/#comment-3803 Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:38:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=4668#comment-3803 But I suppose you are not angered by the actions of the Israeli state towards the people of Palestine.

After all you are probably another Protestant who supports the worldly nation of Israel and supports western intervention which ironically leads to the growing of all these radicals that anger you so. Everytime the West (mainly America, but also her sisters) pokes the dog, the dog bites harder on what he has: and those are our Christian brothers and sisters.

But it’s OK Chris Gale, we live in the United States or the continent of Australia, we are removed from all of that stuff so we can talk about how terrible the radicals are there, all the while electing leaders whose actions leads to the direct creation of those radicals, as well as supporting the people of Israel and financing their arms like Obama did a couple weeks ago by giving money directly for Israel’s missile systems, offensive and defensive. After all it is only our unnamed brothers and sisters paying the toll for our sins.

If the Protestants of the West truly cared about them, they wouldn’t keep on doing actions that lead to their deaths or slavery. The Conservatives of America will once again hold hands with the warmongers in Congress that support Israel’s wars, and together they shall profit over the loss of Middle Eastern Christians. This isn’t even limited to politicians, I see the laity raising money to send overseas to Israel, to fund Israel’s war, yet ironically they aren’t raising money for their Middle Eastern Christian brothers and sisters.

Liberals are to be shunned, but the actions of conservatives are no better. The Kingdom of God doesn’t lie in either. Whose war are we fighting? The one of Christ and the heavenly kingdom of Israel? Or a different Israel?

I just think that while it is honorable to call out Islamofacists in the MiddleEast, those are the easy pickings to go after, the low hanging fruit. If you called out the brothers and sisters of yours that act badly, as the Bible says we are to, then we would solve both problems. We judge those in the church, not out. It is very easy to correctly judge Islam but very hard to judge our brothers and sisters and bring them back to righteousness. We can call Islam wrong all we’d like and we’d be correct, but that in itself does not make us righteous. Only those who love Jesus and the blood he shed for us have his righteousness. And Jesus ordered those who love him to obey his commandments and feed his sheep, a two-fold failure in Western Christianity.

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By: c w https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/08/sluthood-removes-discernment/comment-page-1/#comment-3802 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:54:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=4668#comment-3802 So true, I am in my fifties, excellent catch, but after so many years of being single after being married, I have determined by empiricism, that the only time women are interested in me is when they are physically, emotionally, or financially broken down, which is all of them. So they run off to the next guy who has nothing to offer except the notion of being dangerous, which is fine, you can list that in your photo album when you are sitting in your diaper in the low rent county nursing home looking back. Harlotry is alive and well and practised with a moral decay that would rival the old Testament stories of sin and avarice. And the author is right when he says what wise men know of the mathematics of relationships.

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