Comments on: Judge the competent: tolerate error: fail. https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/ Bleak Theology: Hopeful Science Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:47:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3 By: Marriage in ancient San Franvegas. [The sinner in all this is us.] | Dark Brightness https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3436 Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:08:57 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3436 […] The rot is already obvious to everyone. Why do you think so many millennials are leaving? It isn’t because millennials want to sin without consequence (the most common accusation). Its because (as many studies have already revealed) of the hypocrisy. Lack of honest leadership. Sermons that blatantly go against the scripture, and cause confusion (I think I’ve had more Christians who’ve encouraged me to sin, than non-Christians…) […]

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By: Existenstialism is a dead end [Quotage, Hump day linkage, and Nic Cave]. | Dark Brightness https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3420 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:48:23 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3420 […] said that this morning that gays are like 10 kilo lemurs, not the 800 lb gorilla in our church that is destroying our live, our vigour. We are fighting the […]

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3418 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:28:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3418 The problem is that if you say that to the women in power now you are damning them because they waiated and played the carousel and then married a provider — because that worked in the 1980s and early 1990s. But my generation of men were the providers who got married, got frivorced… and our sons are just not going to commit in case they get done like their Dad or Uncle did.

Nothing wrong with early marriage. You, a certain one of your nemeses (V or Alte), Elspeth… all married young. And I do not need to repeat what Pat (David Collard) and I think of you marrying as a virgin… which should be common, but is not.

To your generation — living functionally and happily is the best revenge. Let my generation go to their graves either repentant and penitent or miserable and alone.

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3419 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:28:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3419 Well, yes. Obvious is obvious.

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By: Butterfly Flower https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3416 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:35:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3416 Concerning Driscoll’s bestseller controversy: don’t publishers do that with all of their books? I mean, its not like Driscoll ordered his publisher to make his book #1.

I think its hilarious, that people think Mark Driscoll has that some-sort of evil power over the publishing industry. “I command you to make my books bestsellers, muwhahaha!”

If we’re gonna accuse anyone of having that sort-of corrupt power, I think the most obvious choice is Playboy Playmate (and former Hugh Hefner girlfriend) Kendra Wilkinson. There’s not way she legitimately wrote two books that reached the New York Times bestseller list.

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By: Butterfly Flower https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3415 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:26:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3415 “becomes merely another part of the secular republic — and the rot becomes obvious to everyone”

The rot is already obvious to everyone. Why do you think so many millennials are leaving? It isn’t because millennials want to sin without consequence (the most common accusation). Its because (as many studies have already revealed) of the hypocrisy. Lack of honest leadership. Sermons that blatantly go against the scripture, and cause confusion (I think I’ve had more Christians who’ve encouraged me to sin, than non-Christians…)

…The sad thing is, it often feels like, well, there’s not much one can do about the issue. I mean, not many Christians like when you call out their hypocrisy, or when tell them they are professing false doctrine. Whenever I tried to confront people who profess false doctrine (for example, saying early marriage is sinful) nicely, I would be given the whole “he without sin throw the first stone” speech and condemned as a mean judgmental byoch.

Concerning gays in the church – it often feels like they’re used as a scapegoat, when other, more pressing issues are brought up. Prominent cheated on his wife with his wife? Hey, look over there, there’s a gay Christian! Its not different from the Politicians who bring up the gay marriage debate, to distract voters from political corruption.

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By: Hearthrose https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3414 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:50:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3414 My pastor has the tricky job of dealing with a lot of broken people and introducing them to Christ. I don’t live in a high-rent district, and my church heals the broken as it can. /grins impishly You can always watch him, I’ve got it linked on HHH.

It is – seriously – a weird church. Biblical – hard core Biblical – on one side, and stylistically mellow on the other. You start working with people where they are.

Some days I miss the rules of my youth, but then I see that the church of my youth is dead and my current church is alive for Christ and so busy doing His work it’s not even funny. So I guess I can’t start swatting hats off of heads in service. 😉

If I could drag everyone to my church, just once or twice to feel the Spirit move… dang. I so would.

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3413 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:27:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3413 The Bible should be thumped a little more often. There is a method here:

“Brothers and Sisters, we don’t need to like this word. It sounds to our ears like hate speech. How dare Paul damn the immoral? How dare he say that they will not inherit the kingdom? Why does he say we should shun those in the church who practise immorality?

This is not what our society says. It is not what we have said: We have said that God loves us and that we are sons and daughters of the king and we should take pride in our status and we should damn those who confrontl us. We have been accomodating. We have tried to be friendly to those who remain in sin: we have lightened out teaching and called our services seeker friendly

But this passage states, plainly, that we have been wrong”.

Your pastor may have something to say about all this, of course: I’m lay — he has the burden.

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By: Hearthrose https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3412 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:18:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3412 Well he’s never met me, so I was speaking metaphorically. :) Hey, I grew up Baptist, I like a good Bible thumping sermon.

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By: chrisgale https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2014/03/judge-the-competent-tolerate-error-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-3411 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:15:00 +0000 https://pukeko.net.nz/blog/?p=3810#comment-3411 Physically slapping you in the face is not his role. Confronting your sin is: for that the word suffices.
Driscoll generally does more good than ill.

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