Comments on: Confrontation is a feature of the Gospel, not a bug.

By: Hearthrose

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 04:38:00 +0000

Well. The cold rock sounds good. Also isn’t it green there? I don’t know why we’re here. God could easily move us elsewhere anytime it suited Him, but I gave up whining at Him about it about five years ago. -shrugs- He’s been faithful and generous and gracious so far, I’m not worried though logically I ought to be.

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By: chrisgale

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:42:00 +0000

On Chuck… we do not know the hour nor the day. But the times are bad. There is a reason, apart from the fact there is a university that keeps me in the style to which I am accustomed, for living in a fairly cold rock in the middle of the South Pacific.

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By: Hearthrose

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:42:00 +0000

Some of the specifics are heartrending. I *know* you know that the Bill of Rights is dead… most of America does not. I found out today that it’s illegal to give a servicemember a Bible. You can give them a Koran… but not a Bible. (I have heard about the goingson in the Corps from our local military minister who is a purple heart vet… my grandpa is spinning in his grave, as is FIL). -sad- C’est la vie. “For such a time as this” – life isn’t about playing it safe, is it?

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By: chrisgale

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:34:00 +0000

@Bobbeye, that’s enough.
You do not want to see me in full rant mode. I start quoting Ann Barnhardt, who makes Ann Coulter look like a moderate. Then I start using the tactics of the BoFH.
Wrath is attractive at any time… and has to be resisted.
@Hearthrose

What you say makes me sad. NZ is fallen… but we have never pretended that we are a city on a shining hill.

Admittedly, we don’t have the IRS audit practices here — if you are too non PC or political you lose your charity status and keep on going. (Which is what happened to Exodus locally). But the USA was great. It makes me sad.
However, we all have to remember that there is a remnant, in every nation and in every time.

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By: Hearthrose

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:02:00 +0000

I think he wanted to move his valuables (aka his ministry) offshore. To hear him talk about the US is to weep. His heart is so broken. (Not that I disagree). He was in Coeur d’Alene, which is in Idaho, which is where I’d move if I had a chance to move. It rains there and the gangbang contingent is much lower. But the Lord chooses my life, and I’m good with that. Please do rantback, I’m going to eat my post-church ice cream and then type. I saw Missler earlier this afternoon. Didn’t ask questions, took a lot of notes, drove home and … then my pastor said something that (at least in my very disorganized head) dovetailed. Hey, I got to shake his hand, that was pretty awesome. -geek- I don’t think I’m going to irritate you, I’m going to AGREE with you. Loudly.

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By: Bobbye

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 01:18:00 +0000

rant [rant] Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild or vehement way; rave:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rant

To you , what I stated was a rant? WOW!

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By: chrisgale

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 00:34:00 +0000

Rants will be commented back on. See above.
If you meet him… can you ask — why New Zealand? We do have a lot of PC pressure here — and I thought Idaho would be missionary and bible study friendly.
Not that I’m asking him to go back to the USA, of course.

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By: chrisgale

Sun, 16 Mar 2014 00:30:00 +0000

OK. I will jump into this for one comment only. I AM presbyterian — and switch between a low church service and a fairly hard core reformed group that united a buncha ton of people who split from the Presbyterian Church on doctrinal issues (went there this week. See the next post).

The church is one in Christ. It is not one by any denomination. In our fallen nature we have divided into Roman, Orthodox, Protestant, Coptic and Pentecostal.

But there is a functional unity of those who are serious about their faith in these times. Particularly in the tradosphere — Hearthie is what she calls “Bapticostal”, I think SSM is Anglican but have never asked her, while Zippy and Mundabor are Catholic. Yet we talk.

Not about what communion means or the virgin… but about how we should now live.

Historically, the Reformed (and Evangelical, or Lutheran) started as a reforming movement within Catholicism — against indulgences, for a more pietistic and non exploitative Kirk (for the Indulgences paid the fees Bernini and Michelangelo requested to build St. Peters). We would say that we are the true Catholic faith. But… we know that it is not just those in our mucky holy huddle (and the idea of a perfect church is the other side of the Catholic error — one over emphasizes apostolic authority, the other considers there can be a perfect community of believers in this time).

What matters is how faithful, we as a church, are as witnesses. For the church preserves society. Ours is rotting. And we all will be held to account for this.

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By: Hearthrose

Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:38:00 +0000

Interesting opportunity to hear Chuck Missler in person today … said some similar things, about how we lose our focus on the gospel in our focus on side matters. There will be ranting in the near future….

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By: Bobbye

Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:03:00 +0000

If the founders of the Presbyterian Church had believed what you just claimed that you believe, I guess you would be Roman Catholic. But they didn’t believe it. The Spirit and the Scripture do not say that those ” born of the Spirit and water” should be one; They say they are one. It is a matter of being, not of doing. When you behave as if it is something you do, you deny the Spirit and the Scripture. There is one Body of Christ that consist of all peoples and languages, and who worship in their own manner, with their own songs and dance, their own rising ups and sitting downs. Who appointed the Presbyterians Judge over such matters?

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