I put up a post yesterday about shootings in Oregan, where those who confessed Christ were selected for death. This morning on Atlas shurgged there are screenshots of Islamic State tweets hailing this event. To quote.
The Islamic State is crowing on social media, laying claim to the mass murder in Roseberg, Oregon. Not surprising. There is much we do not know. We know Harper’s only male friend was a jihad sympathizer who praised “the brave Mujahideen heroes.” And said, “The Mujahideen freedom fighters of Palestine. My brothers and sisters keep on doing your thing. Allahu Akbar.” “my brave soldiers keep on fighting for the liberation of Palestine against Israel. f*ck Israel. Kill the Jews. jews are the only infidels.” “The Quran ….. holy book of muslims” Law enforcement removed Chris Harper’s Facebook page. They always do that. The media is trying to make it about blood glory. It wasn’t Harper commented on a news story on a forum (he didn’t have a blog as has been widely misreported). He posted on a forum about random stuff, mundane topics like the death of Wes Craven, and that’s all that law enforcement authorities left up for people to see. What did they scrub? That’s the question. We know Harper’s only male friend was a jihad sympathizer. Obama knows. That’s why he jumped in front of the camera like some shrieking harpy to rail against the second amendment, the only protection we have from tyrants like him. “>
I find it bizarre that the Oregon authorities searched everyone’s bags post shooting, holding everyone in vulnerable groups, and not allowing communication with the outside — they confiscated cellphones. This is the work of petty tyrants, and under NZ privacy law (I know the USA runs on different rules) I would then be liable, for I have work on the phone — which is secured for very good reasons.
But to the passage. In the time of Hezekiah the Assyrians told the people of Jerusalem not to trust in the LORD. to their own peril, for the bulk of their army was struck down.
This is the word that the LORD has spoken concerning him:
“She despises you, she scorns you— the virgin daughter of Zion; she wags her head behind you— the daughter of Jerusalem. “Whom have you mocked and reviled? Against whom have you raised your voice and lifted your eyes to the heights? Against the Holy One of Israel! By your messengers you have mocked the Lord, and you have said, ‘With my many chariots I have gone up the heights of the mountains, to the far recesses of Lebanon; I felled its tallest cedars, its choicest cypresses; I entered its farthest lodging place, its most fruitful forest. I dug wells and drank foreign waters, and I dried up with the sole of my foot all the streams of Egypt.’
“Have you not heard that I determined it long ago? I planned from days of old what now I bring to pass, that you should turn fortified cities into heaps of ruins, while their inhabitants, shorn of strength, are dismayed and confounded, and have become like plants of the field and like tender grass, like grass on the housetops, blighted before it is grown.
“But I know your sitting down and your going out and coming in, and your raging against me. Because you have raged against me and your complacency has come into my ears, I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth, and I will turn you back on the way by which you came.
“And this shall be the sign for you: this year eat what grows of itself, and in the second year what springs of the same. Then in the third year sow and reap and plant vineyards, and eat their fruit. And the surviving remnant of the house of Judah shall again take root downward and bear fruit upward. For out of Jerusalem shall go a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the LORD will do this.
“Therefore thus says the LORD concerning the king of Assyria: He shall not come into this city or shoot an arrow there, or come before it with a shield or cast up a siege mound against it. By the way that he came, by the same he shall return, and he shall not come into this city, declares the LORD. For I will defend this city to save it, for my own sake and for the sake of my servant David.”
And that night the angel of the LORD went out and struck down 185,000 in the camp of the Assyrians. And when people arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies. Then Sennacherib king of Assyria departed and went home and lived at Nineveh.
Kipling wrote this at the peak of the British Empire. I would not call him a prophet, but he lived to see his son die along with the sons of all the elite in England in that charnel house of the first war, and could see the empire of Victoria was going to crumble if the people forgot God.
Which they did, and indeed the empire is no more.
Kipling is seen as unfashionable by the elite; but so is the history of Israel, and the prayers of Hezekiah. The elite boast in their power and their authority. They see all as politics, despite knowing that all political careers end in failure and a loss of the fleeting power one may have achieved.
But they deny, unwisely, that God moves them as good horseman does dressage. They have an illusion that their careers are of their own making, and thank not God. Kipling knew better.
Recessional
By Rudyard Kipling1897
God of our fathers, known of old,
Lord of our far-flung battle-line,
Beneath whose awful Hand we hold
Dominion over palm and pine—
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!The tumult and the shouting dies;
The Captains and the Kings depart:
Still stands Thine ancient sacrifice,
An humble and a contrite heart.
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe,
Such boastings as the Gentiles use,
Or lesser breeds without the Law—
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!For heathen heart that puts her trust
In reeking tube and iron shard,
All valiant dust that builds on dust,
And guarding, calls not Thee to guard,
For frantic boast and foolish word—
Thy mercy on Thy People, Lord!
Now, our prayers should be with the families of all those who died. We should rejoice and proclaim that Christ was witnessed to, and we should pray for the family of the killer — who is now awaiting judgment by God. Given that ISIS claim him as their own… one would be less certain.
What we do know is you can judge by the fruits. Leaving the killer alone, the elite of the USA are trying to shut down the issues of religion and race in this case, and trying to get guns banned. They are producing idiotic arguments: that in the commonwealth we don’t have guns. We do: there is a hunting and fishing shop at the end of my road, and though you need a licence for a long gun, there are other tools for hunting that merely require skill.
Not my thing, When I stalk wildlife, I’m carrying a camera with along tens attached.
What is harder is to see that God is working even in the evil that is done. I tend to follow the dictum of Napoleon: I neither call the hand of God conspiracy if incompetence can explain what is happening. What I do see in North America is a lack of basic common sense./ Ignoring firearms — you can’t force people into crowns or queues. You don’t put up Gun free zones wien guns are available.
It is telling the ferals that there is free food here.
But there is one warning for all: if you forget the LORD almighty in a false hope of tolerence and peace, you will get neither tolerence or peace. God will not be mocked. And God will preserve a remnant, particularly when the times are evil.
Because every good liberal saw “One Flew Over The Cuckoos’ Nest” in the 60s & 70s, the mental health policies of the USA are thus: we can do nothing to a person until they commit a crime. Then we tend to send them to prison for a long time. That’s the actual issue.
Granted, it doesn’t help that we have the 24-hour News Cycle, we’ve obliterated most of our social institutions and no one that “should have known” is ever responsible. Oh, and the buildings were also “gun free zones” while the campus would technically not be, because of some court cases. (Apparently) Thus you actually have an even worse situation.
I have some relatives in the region, so I know a few years ago around Christmas, there was a shooting at a Mall in Portland. (Major city some miles north of this one) I believe only 2 people died because a concealed carry owner secured his family, secured his position and threatened the shooter. The shooter promptly committed suicide. Most of these cases are actually suicides. They train police to engage an active shooter as quickly as possible, as more times than not they’ll shoot themselves dead. In an Asian Culture, these same types would go into the woods and kill themselves. Or step in front of a train.
I have a full blown rant about antipsychiatry. I don’t understand parts of the US culture. They do affect us down here: Last time I went to a local conference we were picketed. By the scientologists.
What is different down here? Firstly, we don’t have as many race and religion problems: the Islamic population is around 1% and the indigenous remain the main minority at 15%. Secondly, we don’t have short guns, only hunting guns and shotguns… which can do great damage, but you canpt conceal them. And they are licenced. (Air guns and crossbows are not). We have more knife deaths than gun deaths. Thirdly, we have compulsory treatment programmes which extend into the community, and can include medication or even ECT against a person’w wishes: this requires second opinions and there is regular reviews by a judge.
This means we are “in your face”. If someone is mad and dangerous we don’t allow them to sack us. If we don, we are held accountable.
Now, this man looks like he was confused, angry, and needed help. However, there is a lot of censoring going on in the media: not all the information is out there.
But he has now acted, and he isnow got to face the tenral judge.
I know families who have had children age out of their guardianship who have refused to take their psychiatry meds… and the family is helpless. Worse off than a stranger, legally. It’s terrifying and STUPID.
I believe it was the Aurora Theater shooter’s own mother that said she wasn’t surprised. After 18, there’s nothing anyone can legally do until they commit a crime. It just ensures they take more people with them.
This is the part of the bible I remember well. II Kings ch19. Isaiah ch36 & 37. It’s also in Chronicles. The old dead preacher has said, When G-D wants you to get something, an Idea, a point or a lesson, he gives it to you three times.
I remember reading this passage where the Assyrian king boasts about his army drying up rivers as they were so many men.
I am fortunate that I have a King Jams Bible and I can read of the wondrous works of G-D. His Power. We have the English to thank for that, the ability to read the bible, the word of G-D.
Then the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses; Isaiah ch37:36
I really like the way the English translated and put this phrase in the Bible. “and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand:”
And I remember from the bible; “the boast of the mighty!” When I am forced to, or tricked into listening to OhZero, I feel sorry for him. Last night on the local PBS station[ Public Broadcasting Station] they had a story about the same assyrian king and his great flower garden. The whole story was unearthed on clay tablets. All I could think of was Isaiah 37. Like the old king, OhZero, if he is remembered it will be from an old book written after he is long dead. After one or two hundred years the book will crumble to dust. The way this country is going, computer hard drives will fail and some things will be backed up. Some things.
There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.;Ecclesiastes ch1:11.